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Jonathan Van Ness shared an replace on the place he stands with Dax Shepard after their “very unexpected” debate about trans rights.
“I think Dax and I are good,” Van Ness, 36, shared throughout an episode of the “Not Skinny But Not Fat” podcast launched on Tuesday, November 14. “I haven’t spoken with him since.”
He added, “He’s nice. I have a lot of respect for him. I thought he was very brave to release it.”
Van Ness cried throughout a September look on Shepard’s “Armchair Expert” podcast when defending the rights of trans youngsters and discussing numerous points within the LGBTQIA+ group.
“It just felt fine — OK, actually it didn’t feel that good,” Van Ness admitted throughout Tuesday’s podcast, doubling down on earlier claims that the dialog had been “really edited.”
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“I just wished that I could have had a transcript or insight into what that edit would be. I asked for that and wasn’t given that. … That part was kind of hard,” the Queer Eye star defined, calling the unedited dialogue a lot “worse” than what was launched. “If a more accurate edit existed, you would see why I cried.”
Van Ness’ tense dialog with Shepard, 48, stemmed from a disagreement about whether or not The New York Instances is taken into account anti-trans following the publication of a number of controversial articles. Shepard said that “some people are very uncomfortable about teenagers transitioning,” claiming that to “question it makes you an enemy.”
Van Ness responded by saying, “I feel like I’m talking to my dad.” Shepard, for his half, apologized in the course of the dialog and stated he “did not intend at all” to start out a debate on the subject.
“Every single thing I said, he had pushback,” Van Ness instructed “Not Skinny But Not Fat” host Amanda Hirsch on Tuesday. “I almost got up and left twice.”
Van Ness hopes to someday have a separate dialog with Shepard in regards to the incident. In reality, he even thought the “Armchair Expert” host may “reach out” after their podcast episode went stay.
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“There’s a world where a second conversation would be nice, privately, where [he gives] a more genuine apology and [takes] ownership,” Van Ness stated.
Whereas Van Ness stated that it felt like Shepard was “gaslighting” him all through their dialog, the Netflix character has no damaging emotions towards the actor.
“I think Dax is really sweet,” he stated. “I don’t think he means harm. I will say that. He does not mean harm. I thought it was brave [to release] the episode. I’m glad that he allowed for so many more people to be exposed to that conversation.”